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From: "Andrea Sharp" <>
Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Marrage records; Henry Banks
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:45:13 -0500
In-Reply-To: <011f01c97388$f2aa8de0$ab839543@Tipperary>

Hi Terry,
I have Annie's death certificate, her madden name is McGowan. (as well as
her burial records from St. Mary;s I have Elizabeth Peckham/ Peckmen/Phegman
(I think they are all phonetic spellings) on John T. Death Certificate,
Michael's Death Certificate and on Mary's Marriage license. I KNOW Henry
Banks had two wives. I just have no idea when Elizabeth died and when Henry
married Annie.

I have ship record for Henry on the Dromohan arriving May 20, 1853 port
departure Sligo, with no wife. All records show that Henry and Elizabeth's
children were born in NYC but I just don't know where. I did send a request
to the NYC archives department for John T. born 1859 in Manhattan but no
records were found. So I am guessing either Elizabeth came form Ireland as
Henry's wife later or they met and married here??? The only records of the
Pegnam from Ireland I have is from the Griffith Valuation listing is: head
of household Patrick Pegnam I Roscommon (this is next to Sligo) Parish
Kiltoom, located in Corraclogh. Who knows the story??? It would make a
wonderful book?

That is what I have.

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:]On Behalf Of Theresa Bora
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Marrage records; Henry Banks

Hi Andrea. The names you cite for the children of Henry Banks are the same
names listed in the 1880 & 1900 US censuses for Henry and Ann/Annie Banks on
15th Street (the Banks name is mis-transcribed and indexed as 'Bauks' in
1900). It could be that this Ann/Annie is in fact Elizabeth, but Annie's
middle initial on the 1900 Census is M. Do any of your documents list a
middle initial for Elizabeth? When Joyce mentioned in her earlier email to
you that there could be more than one Henry Banks, I thought that might be
the answer, but now I doubt if that's what happened in this case. In your
original post you said you have Henry in the 1900 census with Annie McGowan
as 'wife'. Where does this 'McGowan' name show up? Do you have a copy of
the image from the Deed Book? If so, could you send it to me off-List?
This is a puzzle. There's probably some answer to it, but right now I can't
figure out what it could be. Anyone else out there have any ideas? Terry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrea Sharp" <>

> Thanks Terry I always love help!
> Elizabeth shows in the Deed Book in troy for the property on 15th Street
> in
> 1867. Then shows on their daughter Mary's marriage certificate, and on
> their children's John T., Michael, and George's death certificates. Mary
> died in the Poughkeepsie mental Hospital and gives Annie as her Mother but
> I
> know that is not true. So, I know she was around I have Elizabeth's last
> mane spelled a few ways and none of them clearly, Peckman, Peckingham and
> so
> on. I don't know how far back St. May's cemetery goes back, but I am
> thinking that I cannot find any records of here there; I may look in Mt.
> Ida
> Cemetery for her. If anyone knows how I can find any early records for Mt.
> Ida please let me know.
> I know John, Michael, Mary and George were born in NYC, I have no idea
> where? My Grandfather always said they came up from Staten Island but I
> don't think that is true. I am at a loss on how to find these birth
> records
> in NYC. Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Andrea
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