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From: "Bradford H Miter" <>
Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] DAR Irish (Troy,Lansingburgh & Rensselaer County)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:43:33 -0500
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June wrote:

>>Does anyone have an ancestor from Troy that fought in the Revolution? I
am trying to find names and short biographies of Troy patriots for a DAR
project. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I am
aware that most Irish came after the Revolution including my Irish
ancestors.
Thanks.<<

I'm not sure that Troy was more than a farm at the time of the Revolutionary
War. Below is an excerpt from Wikipedia article on Troy. Actually, I
believe that Lansingburgh (incorporated into Troy in 1900) was more
important at that time.

"The site of the city was a part of the Van Rensselaer grant of 1629. Dirck
Van der Heyden was one of the first settlers. In 1707, he purchased a farm
of 65 acres (26 ha) which in 1787 was laid out as a village.
A local legend that a Dutch girl had been kidnapped by an Indian male who
did not want her to marry someone else gained some credence when two
skeletons were found in a cave under Poestenkill Falls in the 1950s. One
skeleton was female and Caucasian with an iron ring. The other was
Native-American and male.
The name Troy (after the legendary city of Troy, made famous in Homer's
Iliad) was adopted in 1789, and the region was formed into the Town of Troy
in 1791 from part of the Rensselaerwyck Manor. The township included the
current city and the town of Brunswick. Troy became a village in 1801 and
was chartered as a city in 1816. In 1900, the city of Lansingburgh was
merged into Troy.
In the post-Revolutionary War years, as central New York was first settled,
there was a strong trend to classical names, and Troy's naming fits the same
pattern as the New York cities of Syracuse, Rome, Utica, Ithaca, or the
towns of Sempronius, Manlius, or dozens of other classically named towns to
the west of Troy."


I have a Thomas Spotten (b. 1861 and an uncle of some sort) who was in a
militia and received a pension. I have no idea whether the Spottens were
Irish or English (the name is present in both countries) as the first
appearance of the family was in NY City area in the early 1700's. Thomas'
parents, William and Eleanor Spotten, were married on Long Island 15 Jun
1760 but by the time of the Revolution were living on a farm a few miles
east of Lansingburgh in Rensselaer County.

It is possible that William' parents were James and Thankful Spotten
mentioned in "The New-York Conspiracy, or a History of the Negro
Plot....1741-2," which took place in the same part of Long Island. Note
that James and Thankful Spotten were living in a home operated by a 'KELLY'
and another reference to a KENNEDY. Can't get more Irish than that. Here
is the citation:

"Pg. 238
"10. That he has heard Thankful Spotten, wife of James Spotten (both lodgers
at his house) say, that she once saw a large company of negroes at Kelly's
house, dancing to a fiddle; she said she then lodged at Kelly's; came home
about eight of the clock at night, and one of the negroes (a tall one) asked
her what business she had there? and threatened to kick her into the fire,
if she did not go away: Kelly's wife asked her to go up stairs, and see the
negroes dance; then she was going down stairs, and she met M. Kennnedy's
mulatto coming into the room, who huffed the negro fellow, and bid her sit
down again."

Comments
BHM - At Ancestry.com this is the only reference to any Spottens in NYC and
there is a good likelihood that James and Thankful were the parents of
William Spotten, married to Isabel Spotten in 1861."

That's it! Let me know if you can get anything out of this.

Regards,

Brad Miter


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