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Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Libby Wren
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:55:11 +0000 (UTC)
In-Reply-To: <13DC403D3B454032A17AB858ABB14299@MimiPC>


Hi Ann,



If you come across any Ditmyer or Tracey pew holder cards let me know? Are these pew cards going to be posted on any website?



Also, does anyone have any experience research US passport files in the 1920's? I have relatives that travelled overseas(Britain) and I am trying to locate their documents. I found only limited files on Ancestry.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mimi Nicotina" <>
To:
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:04:57 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Libby Wren

Concerning the query from Ann Barr....about her relative,Elizabeth Libby
Wren, I have just recently come across the name "Wren" when I was
transcribing the pew holder cards for Historic St.Mary's in downtown
Albany,New York.the name,Mary Wren appears in the sixth pew section(counting
beginning with the left wall, ( front),facing the altar).Mary Wren is in pew
number 12 sixth section,and the number on the card is #59.  there may be no
connection,but then again,may be a part to your puzzle.  Mimi Nicotina
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Langdon" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Libby Wren


Ho AnnEllen,

It ws very common for ages to change in census and other records.  There
wasn't the focus then on exact age.  People didn't need to prove age either.
They could begin working very young and no one generally had copies of their
birth certificates because they weren't needed for anything.

Also census informtion could be given by others and not the person involved
and they oftentimes didn't know anyone's exact age.

You should get a copy of Libby's civil birth cert and baptismal record.
Those may help you with your question.  She may have had a baptismal name
including Mary.

Chris Langdon

On Aug 14, 2009, at 8:59 AM, AnnEllen Barr wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I am at my wits end trying to find my
> grandfather's sister, Elizabeth
> >> "Libby" WREN (b. 1852) who remained in West Troy
> area when rest of
> >> the
> >> family moved to Wisconsin in 1863.
> >>
> >> I understand she was in "househould service" as an
> 11 year old; then
> >> In time married and stayed in that area raising
> her children.
> >>
> >> I wrote to Thomas Hanley, IHM Archivist in
> Watervliet who kindly sent
> >> Information about a Mary WREN who married a John
> TAGGART in West Troy
> >> At St. Patrick's Church in 1878. He even
> sent info about the
> >> children
> >> Of this marriage baptized at St. Patrick's.
> >>
> >> I spent hours at our local library and accessed
> the Census listings
> >>> From 1880 and 1900 for the couple and also for
> the witnesses to the
> >> baptisms.
> >>
> >> I am not "comfortable" that this Mary was our
> Libby since it would
> >> Appear that this Mary was born (per 1880 Census)
> in 1856, not the
> >> 1852
> >> We Know to be our Elizabeth's date of birth.
> While I know Census
> >> records are not always right, the different name
> and date of birth
> >> make
> >> be
> >> Wary of accepting it.
> >>
> >> I hope that someone in your society might have
> knowledge of their
> >> Great-grandmother being our Libby WREN and contact
> me.
> >>
> >> AnnEllen Barr





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